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Una de las primeras empresas de ómnibus porteñas, frente a la estación Constitución
La Compañía Argentina de Autobuses, de Ismael Alcácer, inició sus actividades en mayo de 1924. Fue una de las primeras empresas hechas y derechas que operaron ómnibus en Buenos Aires.
Sus primeros ómnibus fueron como éste, carrozados por Melano Hnos. sobre chasis nafta-eléctricos de origen italiano, marca SPA. Hubo dos variantes: la menos conocida es ésta, mientras que la otra era de dos pisos y fue muy retratada por lo novedosa.
Aquí vemos a uno de los de piso simple descansando frente a la estación Constitución, del Ferrocarril Sud.
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Chasis/Año:Societá Ligure-Piamontese Automobili Torino (SPA) / 1924
Carrocería:Melano Hnos.
Empresa / Línea:Cía. Argentina de Autobuses
Ciudad / Provincia / País:Buenos Aires / Argentina
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Luis Alberto Nessi  [Feb 20, 2013 at 10:07 AM]
Nafta-eléctricos, ¿algo similar a las diésel-eléctricas?
busarg  [Feb 20, 2013 at 10:15 AM]
Exacto, Luis. Un motor naftero cargaba a otro eléctrico que era el que movía a la unidad.
Marcelo Scévola  [Feb 20, 2013 at 10:36 AM]
Un sistema similar tenían los ingleses Tilling Stevens.
busarg  [Feb 20, 2013 at 10:59 AM]
Exacto, Marcelo. En la trompa decían: TILLING STEVENS PETROL-ELECTRIC.
angeldelasoledad  [Feb 20, 2013 at 12:20 PM]
Usaba el principio de una locomotora diesel para funcionar?.
geb  [Feb 20, 2013 at 01:32 PM]
Duda. Yo tengo al ómnibus 1 funcionando el 25-dic-1919.
busarg  [Feb 21, 2013 at 08:12 AM]
Angelito: sí, estos ómnibus funcionaban como una diesel eléctrica actual. Geb: según nuestros registros, la fecha que consignaste sería la de la asignación de la concesión a Alcácer para su línea 1. ¿Cual será el dato correcto?
geb  [Feb 21, 2013 at 05:57 PM]
No se aclara mucho la cosa, pero vayan un par de links para ilustrar el tema. Parecen indicar que, efectivamente, la concesión sería de 1919 pero el servicio no se implementó hasta bastante después:

Commercial Motor, 4th may 1920. Paciencia que es un escaneado sin editar; corregí lo que pude:

"THE Commercial Secretary to His Majesty's Legation at Buenos Aires has dispatched the Department of Overseas Trade states that the Municipal Council of the city has granted to Señor Ismael S. Alcacer a concession to establish a system of meter omnibuses for passenger traffic.

The routes will (run?) within the following points: Plaza Mayo and &Insane (??), via Boulevard Callao, Avenida Alvear, etc.; Plaza Mayo and Belgrano, via Paseo de Julio, Avenida Alvear, etc.; Plaza Mayo and Constitucion ; Plazas 11 de Septiembre and Palermo Plaza. The number of vehicles employed on each route will be 25, and each of them will have a seating capacity of 32.

The first three services must be in operation within two years from the date of signing the contract of concession, and the remaining services must be working within three years from the same date.

The term of the concession is 50 years. Upon expiry of that period all buildings and land, which must be the property of the concern, occupied by its sheds and installations, as well as the rolling stock, machinery, spare parts, and all such materials as the concern may have acquired up to within two years of the expiry of the concession, will become the property of the Municipality, without any payment whatsoever, and all must be in good, condition and in proper working order.

The concessionnaire will pay to the Municipality 6 per cent, of the gross takings during the period of the concession.

The fare along each route or section will be 10 cents currency, and connection tickets over two sections will be issued at 15 cents currency; season tickets may be issued monthly at such rates as may be agreed upon by the Municipality and the concessionnaire.

In the event of any dispute arising between tab concern and its employees, and which it may be found impossible to settle without the intervention of a third party, the concern will refer the matter to the Municipality to be arbitrated upon,

Senor Ismael S. Alcacer, the concessionnaire, is an Argentine citizen, and it is understood that he intends proceeding to the United States shortly, with a view to interesting a firm of motor omnibus builders in his concession. It would appear, therefore that he will endeavour to raise, at all events, a part of the necessary capital for the venture in that country.

The city of Buenos Aires is already provided with electric tramway systems, which serve many districts, including those comprised in the concession; moreover, the Belgrano terminus is located alongside one of the railway stations of that suburb on a line on which electric traction is now used. It is tb be, hoped that the venture will not follow the same fate as other omnibus undertakings in the city, all of which have had short and unsatisfactory careers.

It may be pointed out that, for many reasons, omnibus running in Buenos Aires are bound to be expensive—far more so than in London—as the narrowness of the streets, the density of the vehicular traffic with all its inherent drawbacks, the general rough state of the surface paving, and the very high cost of petrol and wages render remunerative exploitation, at competitive fares, doubtful.

Ian's Bus Stop: Thomas Tilling O CLASS. Al pie, O168-O179: the single-deckers.
busarg  [Feb 21, 2013 at 08:28 PM]
Concordaría con el dato que tenemos Aníbal Trasmonte y yo: inició sus prestaciones en mayo de 1924, pero la concesión se había obtenido casi cinco años antes (justo da 1919)